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a world trade center rug asshole 0 Afghan War rug. War propoganda or memorial? (5 photos)

The photos represent what’s called an Afghan War Rug and they are very popular in the Middle East. I’ve heard they are traditional and memorialize war events, but my first thought is that they glorify terrorism. Thoughts?

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  • doyoulikethisgig

    fuckin’ bastards

  • Bianka

    Jesus… That’s unbelievable. I’d love to take one of those and pull it down his throat.

  • Equalizer

    1st

  • Bill

    You know the english is really bad and the design is so heavily without meaning that its hard to tell if its promoting what happened or just memorializing the day. To be honest it really does remind me of the poorly designed chinese knock offs like NEKI or Pannasanic so its really hard to tell.

  • awesome.

    oh calm the fuck down. it’s a really bad attempt at a conciliatory gesture. since nobody apparently bothered to read the text on the rug, this is what it says;
    11 September 2001
    the terrors were in hmerida
    first american flight
    second paotuga flight
    USA
    Sil(e, possibly b)
    there is no arabic, urdu, pashto, or any other language on it, so thats all we have to work with.
    you’ll note: nowhere does it celebrate a damn thing. well, except for one thing; the dove of peace, holding an olive branch, joining the American and Afghani flags.
    shocking.

  • martim

    indeed, i think its a bad choice of a theme, but seems to have some kind of peace idea behind. In middle east people expose coffins when protest for an attack, and thats no celebration at all.

    good intention, wrong way.

    BTW, how do you know he’s muslin? it is not written in his face.

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  • Chris

    What an asshole. Of course, we all know that the US government was actually responsible for 9/11…

  • Tamer

    Stop being idiots. They are not glorifying the event, this is just a tradition that has taken root in Afghanistan, where they tell stories of conflicts on rugs. For example, there are plenty of rugs that show the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan; do you think they are glorifying the Soviet invasion? No, it is simply a visual history of conflicts.

  • Waz

    What assholes

  • Kais

    I am from Afghanistan. This rug is ment to mark the day this tragedy happened. Its a story that they tell becuase the rug makers are usually illiterate. I have rugs at my house that shows helicopters from Russia attaching, Klashnikovs firing. They are telling a story. This rug is saying that on 9/11 an attack happened on America which two planes hit the towers. Then fighting occered(the missle launch) then you see the white dove with an olive branch. The white dove with the olive branch is a symbol of peace in Afghanistan. It is between the flags meaning that there is peace between the two countries and Afghanistan extends the olive branch to the US. Furthermore, the man is muslim, he has a traditional head piece called a “lungi.” In our culture, the way he has placed his hands represents a welcome, a salutation or respect also please take note of the position of his head. Most Afghans when placing their hands on their chest to give salutations will tilt their head in honor of your presence. Trust me this man is a old, gentle sweet person. I will be more than glad to answer any questions anyone has.

  • pundit

    LOL!! Sensationalism got PWND!!! LOL!!!

  • robin yates

    good to see people with brains saw the significance of these rugs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, rednecks please go away and do what rednecks do

  • metal_falsetto

    Yeah! This is way worse than all those made-in-China “Never Forget” bumper stickers that people put on their Kias.

  • D

    Wow! No matter what these rugs are saying, I find it hard to believe that so many people posting here actually believe that the U.S. government either conspired, or inspired this event. You assholes have absolutely no evidence to support your claims, but still continue to spew shit from your lips. What a bunch of sad little people…… Make sure to keep watching MSNBC so you can apparently learn the truth about all worldly affairs. I’m sure that they will soon be telling you how the current administration is trying to fuck all of us up the ass too, right? NOT

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  • http://thechive.com Leo

    @martim:
    99% of Afghanistans are Muslims, dumbass

  • kill the sandnigger

    no matter what the piece of shits motive is the bastard has no right at all making those crappy rugs, they are horribly made by the way he has no talent

  • One Sick Puppy

    You don’t think out precious and honest government is capable of planning and carrying out such an event??? You are naive to say the least.

    Research, “Project Northwoods”. You will see just what our government is capable of. After you have read that…..get back with me.

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  • Digitsis

    If anyone had bothered to read the text on the rugs they would have realized how offbase they are with their hateful comments. SO much easier to react than learn.

  • bob

    wow chive first you have a rant about the rugs and callin out names like ***** muslim terrorists as soon as you find out ur wrong you edit ur article..this was a bad post chive shame on you a******!

  • awesome.

    Dear Chive,

    Hi again, it’s me, awesome. In the future I would appreciate it if you did not edit your articles in order to cover up what was at best, a knee-jerk reaction, or at worse, blatant racism. When you sterilize your articles (specifically by changing threats of violence into an attempt to have a meaningful discussion about world traditions) it makes those of us who commented on the pre-edited version look silly, or as though we don’t understand the content, whereas the truth is, that distinction belongs to you.

  • Mike

    Dear Chive,

    Hai.
    Wtf are u doing deleting users comments ?
    So you are racist for posting this.
    Then you are ignorant for editing this.
    But deleting comments that is retarded.

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  • awesome.

    Martim, the last picture appears to be a prayer rug.

  • AlizaG

    Thank you for that. I too saw the white peace dove and was able to understand that this rug commemorates something that happened – not glorifying it.
    Some people just jump the gun and see hate everywhere they turn. Sad.

  • Psara

    Thanks for clarifying. It really didn’t appear to glorify anything, but it’s nice to hear a first-hand account.

  • SreyaNotfilc

    Thanks Kais! I was thinking the same thing. At first I was angry, but then actually looking at the rug and deciphering what’s going on I came to the conclusion that it’s just an illustration telling a story. No more, no less. I have no questions right now, but I’ll be sure to ask if something pops up.

    Do you have a facebook/myspace account, an email or a site that you’re willing to post so I can get in touch with you? It’s very interesting that you live there and it would be cool to “know” someone from there. I’m sure others will be exited to speak with you as well. If not, I’ll post mines (I don’t think we can pm each other).

  • peaceman

    yeah im pretty sure the american government was responsible for it anyway and its cool to hear someone who accually knows what there talking about explain the things in the pictures

  • SreyaNotfilc

    You’re right awesome. We have no idea what is behind these rugs. Perhaps the dove, the date, and the destruction means something different to these guys. Maybe it symbolizes some type of hope towards Afghanistan. Sort of like a cause and effect.

    The cause: desctruction to the USA
    The effect: deployment of soldiers and political talks may eventually equal peace between these nations.

    Having peace wth the US is, of course, a big deal. They probably saw Sept 11 as a horrific day, yet a day that will eventually bring peace to their nation.

    Then again, I’m not from there, so I don’t know.

  • Chris

    Actually- it’s called “Operation Northwoods”

    The plan was drawn up in the 60’s by the CIA to stage terror attacks on US soil, and blame Cuba, in an attempt to gain US public support to attack Cuba.

    The plan included ….
    -Landing friendly Cubans in uniform “over-the-fence” to stage attack on base.
    -Capture Cuban (friendly) saboteurs inside the base.
    -Start riots near the base main gate (friendly Cubans).[13]
    -Blow up ammunition inside the base; start fires.
    -Burn aircraft on air base (sabotage).
    -Lob mortar shells from outside of base into base. Some damage to installations.
    -Capture assault teams approaching from the sea or vicinity of Guantanamo City.
    -Capture militia group which storms the base.
    -Sabotage ship in harbor; large fires—napthalene.
    -Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals for mock-victims.

    Also….(and I quote) “It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner… The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest..”

    Our government has been in the business of “staging” terror attacks for a long time in order to get what they want.

  • D

    Like I said, you have no evidence that supports a governmental conspiracy for the actions that occurred on 9/11/01. You give me the name of some failed government proposal from 1962 in order to back up a claim that the U.S. government masterminded 9/11. You are not only naive, but retarded as well.

  • Chris

    Operation Northwoods called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war

  • D

    Chris:
    Listen, I never said that it is impossible for our government to be involved in such activities. I am just not one of these people who goes around thinking that every single fucking thing is a conspiracy. I can see you in your fucking black trench coat looking over your shoulder while you’re walking down the street, checking around your bedroom in your Mom’s basement looking for “bugs” planted by the CIA, etc. Come the fuck on!!! NOT EVERYTHING IN LIFE HAPPENS DUE TO SOME CONSPIRACY!!! You ever heard the saying, “Shit Happens”? Guess what? Sometimes it just does.

    One Sick Puppy:

    JUST GO FUCK YOURSELF, OK?!

  • Chris

    Can you give me proof that the US government WASNT involved?

    Didn’t think so.

    Seems to me that we are both in the same postion- we both have an opinion, and nothing concrete to prove either side.

  • Chris

    And I didn’t bring up Northwoods to “back up a claim that the US government masterminded 9/11.” Nor am I in a “fucking black trench coat looking over your shoulder while you’re walking down the street…” blah, blah blah.

    The fact that you even said something like that, not even knowing me, just reassures me that you don’t have the mental capacity to have an open debate about something. So- I won’t waste anymore of my time.

  • D

    Funny, I’ve never heard of anybody actually needing to prove their innocence. I always thought it was the job of those making claims to provide proof of guilt. I apologize, I guess I must have misinterpreted the American justice system. Hopefully you won’t waste anymore time on this blog or any other blog. People with YOUR mental capacity should probably just keep their mouths shut until they mature.

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