So this is what passes for a prison in Norway, I guess (14 Photos)

Judging by the pen and shoulder thingys; never can remember the name of them; I'd say she's a guard.

And I have my 'Fap Girl Of The Day'.

I've lived in colleges more derelict than a prison….mind-fuck

I really respect how you treat even the worst among you like human beings. It is something we should all try to do.

No shit….pretty solid flaw right there.

I can assure you he's "enjoying" completely different conditions… Also, it is not correct that prisoners can't be for longer than 21 years. The maximum sentence is 21 years, but it can then be extended by for instance 5 or 10 yrs at a time. In some cases you will spend the rest of your life in jail, but this is rare. The Norwegian prison system is based on rehabilitation rather than punishment.

He's currently being housed at Ila, a far different kind of facility.

um, per capita means per person… i think you meant "..spends on total prisoners, not per prisoner."

<div class="idc-message" id="idc-comment-msg-div-495433263"><a class="idc-close" title="Click to Close Message" href="javascript: IDC.ui.close_message(495433263)"><span>Close Message</span> Comment posted. <p class="idc-nomargin"><a class="idc-share-facebook" target="_new" href="http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthechive.com%2F2012%2F11%2F19%2Fso-this-is-what-passes-for-a-prison-in-norway-i-guess-14-photos%2F#IDComment495433263&t=I%20just%20commented%20on%20Halden%20Prison%20in%20Norway%20%3A%20theCHIVE&quot; style="text-decoration: none;"><span class="idc-share-inner"><span>Share on Facebook</span></span> or <a href="javascript: IDC.ui.close_message(495433263)">Close Message Yeah, this shit works when there are fifteen people living in the country. Balloon this shit up to 350 million and see how broke you motherfuckers get.

Because the prisons in South America, Central and East Asia are all dandelions and butterflies right?

Pimp, it really isn't !

Conventional by what standards? Rich, solitary northern Euro standards? The vast majority of prisons in the world are wayyy, wayyyy shittier than US prisons

That is what happens when you privatise the prison service – that profit margin is more important than anything.
Why do you think the 3-strike rule is popular?

Don't joke about that, it has been a real problem. Norway has been working on deportment instead of imprisonment to allay the problem, but for awhile, word was out that you could get a break from your shitty eastern european existence by commiting a small break-in type crime, and stay in the nice hotel for a few months. I've heard of it happening several times in the 10 years I've lived in Norway.

That's what I figured. The US is notorious for repeat offenders. Our systems create an "Us vs Them" view for prisoners and citizens. There is no incentive to rejoin society in a healthy way.

The US intentionally causes recidivism to remain high. Once you get out of prison, you'll never get a decent job. Every employer asks if you are a felon, and guess how many will hire you if you say yes?

Clearly their prisons focus on rehabilitation rather than punishment as the main goal.
Its a good idea, but a difficult goal to accomplish in a nation of large population and even larger wealth disparity.

Indeed, the rate of recidivism is way lower in Norway than anywhere else. But it's a lot of money the U.S. cannot spend, I guess

i went in with a bachelors in marijuana and came out with a doctorate in cocaine

I'm sure it's operational costs for the prison, guard salaries, eletrical costs etc divided over the total # of inmates. Sounds more sensational the way they put it.

That's what I thought too…
Serious question here: Why do they need 340 prison employees for 250 prisoners who have so many liberties?

It would be nice if this kind of prison worked in the USA, but there are waaaay too many other factors, like you've pointed out. Different races, gangs, regions, and then there's the whole rape thing.

Thank you Kahless.

we are not closed at all my friend last year half of Norways populational growth came from immigration. Can USA say the same? no, its not a numbers game, it's precentage. and if i'm not wrong we crush you there.

might i ad that we belive in rehabilitating our prisoners rather than condem them to a life of crime.

Hah, thousands immigrate to Norway every year. That's the reason crime is getting worse here. It's not allowed to say, but it's true.

The only thing massively different is the attitude. Here in the US we breed an "Us vs Them" mentality into both the prisoners and the citizens. Prisoners have no incentive to rejoin society peacefully. What do we offer them? Nothing. Even after release we require them to check in, take drug tests, restrict their activities, and have them pay fines for years. Employers frown upon hiring them. What motivation do they have to straighten up?

"They also don't let anyone immigrate, they are extremely closed doors compared to the USA."

Having lived in Norway for 22 years, knowing a lot of immigrants there, before moving to the US and going through the whole green card process, I can say that this is completely wrong. Norway allows just about anyone to get a citizenship if they've legally lived in the country for five years, you don't need a visa to visit, and it's considered one of the easiest western countries to immigrate to. The US, not so much.

WOW! Lets send Norway some gang members from southern Cali or Jersey for "re-education".

You do realize that there are hundreds of self made lawyers and other high level degree types in our prison system? It's all about how you deal with going to prison and what you do for yourself when in

You should attend. Maybe you could learn to spell college

Grammar aside, I think nailed it.

Well it is a collage of photos of men on a online community….so i think either way you nailed it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by…

And if you want to give people excess freedom, your going to get more nutjobs out of it.

Too be fair, China just executes most of the people we put in jail forever.

The US has a higher prison population than any country that has ever existed.

False! 21 years is max and you can't get sentenced to 200 years in prison, if you commit 10 murders or something.

Yea, the rest of the world just comes whining to our doorstep when something goes wrong.

Slavery bro

Per capita, we "ain't" even close.

The US has more dept per capita than Greece…Just sayin'

See? US isn't "best in the world" at everything. There is a lot of hype and a lot of ignorance about how "good" we have it compared to other countries. We have plenty of great things, but we have plenty of areas that could use improvement as well.

Not quite true. Lifers get a maximum 21 years and when that ends more time can be added, then their situation gets reviewed every 5 years where they either get more time or are released. So Breivik won't actually ever leave prison because they'll just keep adding time to his sentence.

first of all, it was not a communist camp, but a meeting of socialists: quite different, in case you mind to find out why;
secondly, I have never seen in my life children playing with politics: with games, with each other, with toys, but never with politics. They were teenagers, and young people, I believe up to 25-30 years of age.

Full of fail. Not a communist children's camp, and he will never be released.

I know, right?

So, you would call someone who savagely beats and rapes little 5 year old girls a human!???? Fuck no, they are fucking animals

lmao very funny,well played